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Hi there,

My spirits are telling me that I am not going to predict the future but give the rune power to the soul who is picking one.

Peace and love

I totally agree!

Ja enig med dere begge i det.

"Final Tribe":

"Fagerhjul":

Den store kjærligheten finner ikke jeg heller i nordiske sjamanismen(jeg snakker også om samisk sjamanisme). Den er beinete, knokete, bustete - litt som naturen rundt oss? Men jeg synes den handler mye om å ta vare på det som er lokalt, og de utfordringer man opplever i et lite samfunn. Men igjen, bare teorier. Alt er igrunn det..

Så nordisk sjamanisme er først og fremst for små,einsarta grupperingar der alle kjenner kvarandre ut og inn?
Korleis skal ein integrere dette i vår "Skal vi danse-alder" der den store tomheten snik seg inn mellom reolane?
Eller der naboen snakker eit språk og tilber ein gud me forkaster eller ikkje forstår?

Nei, det var ikke det jeg mente. Jeg tror volvene var healere (psykolog og lege). Men jeg tror ikke de galdret for verdensfreden for å si det sånn...

By the way,here is a link to some of the best, when it comes to research on runes.
In a historical context.

http://ariadne.uio.no/runenews/index.html

Hi there all,

I just picked the "I" rune so it seems I need some recovery time today to melt the wisdom I have got from the runes.

Peace and love

From Wikipedia:
In Norse mythology, the god Odin is especially known for his wisdom, often acquired through various hardships and ordeals involving pain and self-sacrifice. In one instance he plucked out an eye and offered it to Mímir, guardian of the well of knowledge and wisdom, in return for a drink from the well.[10] In another famous account, Odin hanged himself for nine nights from Yggdrasil, the World Tree that unites all the realms of existence, suffering from hunger and thirst and finally wounding himself with a spear until he gained the knowledge of runes for use in casting powerful magic.[11] He was also able to acquire the mead of poetry from the giants, a drink of which could grant the power of a scholar or poet, for the benefit of gods and mortals alike.[10]

Im using the runes as magical symbols which can help the person who is picking the rune get knowledge and wisdom about his soul, not as letters.

I believe this was the initial purpose of the runes.

Peace and love.

http://sjaman.com/content/view/101/1/

mvh ailo

Thanks Ailo,

I believe we have similar understanding of the runes and I will continue my quest in interpreting the runes messages.

Thanks again.

Peace and love.

"Vakker Forvandling":

... I will continue my quest in interpreting the runes messages.

In my opinion, having spent time with all the books recommended, there is no message at all.

There is only the interpretation, of which I care less than nothing.

Hi P,

The books will only guide you through this mystery. It is your own soul, mind and spirits that interpret the runes.

Peace and love.

Så Passopp

Hvor mener du man får kunnskap fra?

R is Tors rune. Tor is angry and wants order from chaos and one have to make a journey to reach order. This could be an inner journey or a physical journey. If you are angry try to focus on this rune and find a journey out of your anger.

Peace and love.

I see the Norse Gods as symbols for various things and only as such. Its part of the ancient Norse mythology and I use the Norse Gods as others use power animals.

I hope I have not upset anybody in believing that I am trying to bring any religion in to the zone.

Peace and love.

if Tor is rage
he is an powerful energy
and not just a thing.
I see him as an complete universe within himself
like you and me,and can be experienced,like a state of mind,a powerful one in this case.
I once experienced the presence of Frøya during a struggle with chaotic darkness
I remember her like a giant spirit vision with an eye of love staring at me,and telling me i was in good company.
From my experiences with gods i have come to understand them as existing in an altered state,and can be invoced or called upon
for guidance and vision,by going into an altered state.
So They are actual beings in my perception,live ones,with alert ears and conscious tentacles, listening to our talk here on the zone.

                  I have come to understand that the gods appear for guidance and support with someone whom
                   they find sympathetic,and from what i have read from peruvian shamanism,the shaman adept seeking help from the gods
                    must endure long periods of fasting and solitude,to recieve the gods symphaty and congress for the aquiring of shaman power to heal and shift shape.

So i guess its not just a matter of knicking the heels together,the gods do exist,but will not help one in the aquiring of money,if one already has a bunch.

I agree with you T,

I have a hard time not making Norse Shamanism in to a religion with Gods.
Does Odin want me to convert after my dialog with him?
I must speak with Odin again about what he wants me to do.

Its the M rune that wants me to do a Vakker Forvandling.

I have to smoke a cigarette and advise with my new power animals the insects. Am I going in(a)sect again.

Shit, things are changing, I can feel it in my soul.

Peace and love.

I got some bugs up me ass too,you see,all summer i got bitten by Flåtts,and they left me full of venomous virilants
wich i have been enforced to heal by using lots of antioxidants from berries to cleanse the bloodstream and strengthen the cell walls.
The reactions i get from lots of sun and many flått bites is one of psychosis and delerium,but i understand they are part of the hardship
a shaman adept must endure if he is to inspect wilderness with all of his  many bodies
So he may straddle sturdy upon that most rocky of roads
        and still work miracles with his lovingness at will
                        never falling ill

I think nature hardens us as well as softening us,she has both the qualities,and it seems to me,that she works the good old hard way
to make me realize how much she loves me.

peace and good old lovin.

Odin wants me to change.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck,
Im changing again.
I dont want to have Tor after me.
EHWAZ IS CALLING.
I HAVE NO FREE WLL, I HAVE TO FOLLOW.
IM WITH ODIN ON SLEIPNER, ONLY SLEIPNER KNOWS WERE WE ARE GOING.

Odin knows Frøya is always somewhere else
So he looks for her there
.

I KNOW WERE WE ARE GOING I CAN FEEL IT. I CAN ALMOST SEE YGGDRASIL.
THE NORSE WORLD.
I HAVE TO SPEAK WITH ALL THE GODS.
SO MUCH TO DO.
I HAVE TRAVELLED SO MUCH AND NOW THIS ONE.
WE ARE GOING SO FUCKN FAST.

FRIGG

FRIGG THE MOTHER OF EARTH IS WELCOMMING US AT THE ROOT OF YGGDRASIL.
SHE IS CALM AND PIECEFULL.
THERE IS NO LIMIT.

WHO HAVE YOU BROUGHT?

WE ARE GOING TO THE TOP.

THERE IS NO TOP ODIN.

THEN SLEIPNER HAS TO TAKE US TO WERE WE ARE GOING.

I CANT REMEMBER ALL NAMES SO PASSOPP HAVE TO WRITE A BOOK WITH ALL INFOMATION IN IT.
THE NEVER ENDING BOOK OF YGGDRASIL.

WE NEED SOME MJÖD.

IM GETTING SEE SICK.

"Vakker Forvandling":

WE NEED SOME MJÖD.

IM GETTING SEE SICK.

SETT SJØBEIN! DET GÅR BETRE UTAN MJØD!

HERE WE JUST EXIST.

THERE ARE NO WORDS WERE WE ARE.

SO WHY THE FUCK AM I WRITING?

I THINK I UNDERSTAND, ODIN IS GOING TO GIVE ME E PEN.

PASSOPP WRITE DOWN SJÖBEIN IN YOUR BOOK, I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS.

THANKS PASSOPP, NOW I KNOW I HAVE SEE LEGS.