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Hi Fagerhjul,

I believe Shamans and the faith in the Norse Gods can do alot for the world. I was able to take me out of the Trollwall for instance.

There is much more to do in Norse Shamanism.

Have been with some Nornorns and was given Odens pen, its in silver and made by the dwarfs. Im able to write again.

The Vikings party realy hard and for a long time.

I meet a Viking who is going to teach me play the Norse Shaman drum.

The drum will bring more enlightment to my journey.

"Vakker Forvandling":

Have been with some Nornorns ...

For Christmas I wish you would write either in Norwegian, where we talk about Norner (Nornene):

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norner

or Swedish, where they are called Nornor (Nornorna):

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nornor

or if you still prefer broken English, the term is simply Norns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns

"Vakker Forvandling":

I meet a Viking who is going to teach me play the Norse Shaman drum.

The drum will bring more enlightment to my journey.

I wonder,wonder,wonder; Are there any (historical) proves at all, that the vikings/norse used norse? shaman drums?
(I do not mean the same-drum)
Just curious.Curiøs,nyfiken,nasete,nyskjerrig,forveten osb.

Tror ikke sjamanisme har landegrenser Den er glObal  .

Men eg vil berre vite,i ein historisk kontekst,om vikingane/germanarane el. kva ein vil kalle dei, nyttade trummor før att indusera trance før att resa.
Eller er det just nogot nån har hinnat på?

Hej FT,

Skriver du på svenska nu också?

Efter att ha talat med Oden så fick jag veta att Shamanerna i nord Europa både var i trans och gjorde trumresor väligt tidigt, vi får fråga Passopp om exakta årtal. Jag vet att det var länge länge sän.

Nu orkar jag inte skriva på svenska längre.

"Vakker Forvandling":

Nu orkar jag inte skriva på svenska längre.

Jeg synes godt at du kan fortsette å skrive på svensk. Jeg synes din svensk er meget god, og husker den også fra da du skrev på forsiden. A nice yellow man - en snäl gul mann.

Hi there Nny, här kommer en snäll gul man som slår sig i huvudet med Mjölner 

"Vakker Forvandling":

Hi there Nny, här kommer en snäll gul man som slår sig i huvudet med Mjölner 

Takk så hyggelig

I need to confirm with Passopps material but I believe the Norse came here 10.000 years ago and that the Samis came here 30.000 years ago.

Does anybody know who came here first. It must have been a lonely person.

Both the tribes probably arrived here much earlier than believed,and from different directions.
When the ice melts down,we will find out more of the causes.
Tror jag

"Vakker Forvandling":

Does anybody know who came here first. It must have been a lonely person.

"Vakker Forvandling":

I need to confirm with Passopps material but I believe the Norse came here 10.000 years ago and that the Samis came here 30.000 years ago.

"Final Tribe":

Both the tribes probably arrived here much earlier than believed, and from different directions.

It's much, much, much more complicated than that. Hundreds of doctoral dissertations, and thousands of books and articles in numerous languages have discussed these questions for more than 400 years.

Archeology confirms there were people(s) here 10.000 years ago. Some groups might have succumbed in some areas, and a thousand years might have passed before new people(s) came around there.

Research today seems to agree that Norsemen and Sami as such, with distinguishable ethnicities that have remained to this day, did not come from anywhere, but gradually developed and formed themselves here in Fenno-Scandianavia and the Kola Peninsula. It's perfectly meaningless to put our modern labels onto people who lived 10.000 or more years ago, even if they might be the ancestors of many of us.

Given time and better health, I might return with some comprehensible modern research material. Until then, good night!

Eg meiner å ha lese at det fans neanderthalerar i det som no er Finland for 20.000 år sidan.Berre for å vikle det endå meire til.
Og mammutar i Gudbrandsdalen. Det må ha vore tunge kår.
Men menneska,dei må jo ha komme nokon stad frå,før istidene?

Thanks Passopp for your wisdom and your well read mind, however, I need to use some numbers in my mind, so I will use 10 000 years for the Norse and 30 000 years for the Samis.

FT, how sure are yur sources on 20 000 years for the Finns.

Thanks in advance.

Er du vill? Det fans vel ikkje samar for 30.000 år sidan?
Ikkje vis Passopp meiner kulturen har utvikla seg over tid,i same område?
Det var litt mykje is for 30.000 år sidan. Hadde reinen mose å ete på,overhodet?
Nei,dette vil eg vite meir om...

Ok, FT. What numbers should I use to get my mind in some chronological order.

Thanks in advance.

Odin is ageless, atleast that was what he told me. He can shift shape any time.

The INWAZ or ING rune means sexality. This is how important sexuality is in the Norse Shamanism. Its a rune for it.

"Passopp":


Research today seems to agree that Norsemen and Sami as such, with distinguishable ethnicities that have remained to this day, did not come from anywhere, but gradually developed and formed themselves here in Fenno-Scandianavia and the Kola Peninsula. It's perfectly meaningless to put our modern labels onto people who lived 10.000 or more years ago, even if they might be the ancestors of many of us.

Jeg har opplevd å bli vist rundt i et område med arkeologiske utgravninger, på Spildra i Kvænangen. Det jeg så der kan tyde på denne teorien: Øverst i lia var det rester av grunnmurer etter steinalderhus. Lengre ned hadde det delt seg i samiske og norske boliger.

Her er linken til hele historien:
http://sjaman.com/component/option,com_ ... pic,6693.0

Ellers så var min far ingeniør og lagde veier og bruer i området rundt tromsø. En gang skulle han lage en vei på Tussøya, og der fant han en vikinggrav som var 11.000 år gammel, i følge Tromsø Museum. Så det kan tyde på at det kan ha vært folk her litt tidligere enn for 10 000 år siden.

Mvh Stridshjelp

"Stridshjelp":

[til hele historien:
Ellers så var min far ingeniør og lagde veier og bruer i området rundt tromsø. En gang skulle han lage en vei på Tussøya, og der fant han en vikinggrav som var 11.000 år gammel, i følge Tromsø Museum. Så det kan tyde på at det kan ha vært folk her litt tidligere enn for 10 000 år siden.

Mvh Stridshjelp

Kva er ein viking,eigentleg?
No er eg ofseleg spent!

Forresten; det eg skreiv i går om Finland,var å ta svakt i. Det er verre enn eg trudde   :w00t:  ;

http://www.sydaby.eget.net/eng/wolf/wolf_ralf.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Cave



http://www.sarks.fi/fa/fa.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16224-neanderthal-genome-already-giving-up-its-secrets.html

Do I have to read all this about what you wrote?

The standard deviation is enormos.